Jeff – Jev-compatible 0.8B decision models, trained at home, ~30 ms
HN 热门故事「Jeff – Jev-compatible 0.8B decision models, trained at home, ~30 ms」进入今日前列,值得先打开原文和讨论串判断它真正有价值的部分。
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它在 HN 上获得约 346 分和 137 条评论,说明这个话题至少触发了社区讨论;真正的判断仍要回到原文证据和评论区的分歧点。
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HN rank: 1
HN score: 346
comments: 137
original url: https://github.com/firelex/jeff
评论区已经提供了一些读者反应,但这里还没有形成完整综合。
评论信号:Sorry, do we have actual clear implementation details for Jev? I keep seeing these "recreations" or "Do Jev at home" but do we have access to their architecture? I haven't even used the product, I just find it strange.
评论信号:Forgive my lack of understanding but how long before Jev type functionality is just built straight into all frontier models? reply: Do people really have zero awareness that Structured Outputs with a constrained schema has been a thing for a while now, and open weight models that give you logprobs can give you distributions per key?Like what am I missing? I use Structured Outputs every day and this just seems like that with fewer steps?edit: Where I'm coming from, I can triage 10,000 support tickets with deepseek flash for less than $1, and latency is sub 1 second if it needs to be integrated into a live user flow. I don't need anything cheaper or faster than that.
评论信号:I compared it to Jev in my current use cases and it's very inaccurate. 70% vs 94% . for classification, it's unacceptable. reply: For your classification it's unacceptable. The OP seems to have anticipated this and mentions you can fine tune it for your use case. Did you try that?I don't think the point is to displace Jev, but to show it's possible to build an MVP on open weights without years of work and millions of dollars.Why (presumably) an engineer would dismiss exploring a lightweight, custom alternative to locking into a fashionable PaaS, I'll never know.
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